With the house all to myself from Thursday through Sunday night, I suggested to Robby (our gang bang guru) that it would be great for him to arrange a fuck session where we could take advantage of an empty house for a change, rather than renting a hotel room for our activities. He came through within the first couple of hours, which just shows what an amazing track record he has of snagging seriously fuckable women.

He'd connected with Jamie via a Craigslist ad. She's 30, 5-5 120, with blonde-highlighted light brown hair and 32B tits. The photo posted here is the one she sent along with her request to meet. Because it was midday Thursday, Robby was only able to arrange a threesome, since the rest of the guys in our over-50 GB group couldn't make it on such short notice. Jamie was apparently OK with that, though, since this was to be her first multi-guy sex encounter and she wasn't too sure how overwhelmed she might be with more participants. And if her claims could be believed, it would prove the first time in more than a month that she'd had any kind of sex at all.

While waiting for them to show up, I gave Robby some shit via text because, after picking Jamie up from her place in North Denver, he had trouble finding my house on the southeast side. He claimed his GPS was all fucked up, but I was more certain it was operator error. Also on the way over, he "warned" me that Jamie was a bit on the skanky side, but I replied that, given our plans for the afternoon, that was a benefit rather than a flaw.

They showed up at my place just before 1:00 p.m., around 20 minutes late. I'd prepared our guest room in advance by stripping the queen-size bed and putting on a new bottom sheet plus clean pillow cases, setting out a brand-new tube of lube, and adjusting the shades so the room wouldn't be quite so bright. Meeting them at the front door, I saw that Jamie was dressed in a pleasantly slutty outfit: Short green cloth jacket over a black lace sleeveless top with a purple bra showing underneath, a denim micro-mini skirt that barely covered her ass, and over-the-knee high-heeled leather boots. She had her hair tied back in a ponytail and spun around after coming through the door so I could apply the green silk scarf I was using as a blindfold. She'd asked for this as one of the conditions of the afternoon's activities, and I was happy to oblige.

Given the lateness of their arrival and the fact Robby had to leave in an hour to pick up his kids from school, we immediately headed upstairs and got down to business. I helped Jamie off with her jacket and unzipped her skirt so she could slip it off. She quickly removed her lacy top and I unhooked her bra. We all agreed she could leave her boots on for the duration. Meanwhile, Robby was stripping down to bare skin, tossing his clothes haphazardly onto the floor in his haste to start in on Jamie. She asked us to leave her undershorts on -- they were leopard-print boy-shorts -- which was fine because they'd been altered by having two carefully placed holes cut out of the crotch. One showed off her smoothly shaved pussy while the other exposed her tight little asshole. I ran my hand down over her buttocks and slipped my middle finger into her tight, wet pussy while removing my clothes at a pace considerably slower than Robby had achieved. He put his hands on her small, firm tits and began to suck on her nipples, which stood up nicely to the attention. She used one of her hands to tug on his fully erect cock - it was hard even before he took off his trousers -- and meanwhile I disengaged so I could remove the rest of my clothes as well.

Robby suggested she lie on her back, which she did, and he stuck his face in between her thighs to taste some of that sweet, sweet pussy. I thought he might be down there a while, but after only about a minute of some serious licking he stood up, pulled her hips closer to the edge of the mattress, and jammed his seven-inch dick into her wet slit. She had her legs up in the air with Robby pressing his hands against the backs of her thighs to keep them there as he pounded her hard. I'd stroked myself from a semi-hard to a fully erect state and climbed onto the bed so she could take my dick in her mouth. By changing my angle of approach, I was able to slide my entire member into her mouth. Of course I'm less than six inches, so it's not a huge challenge, but I could still sense the tip of my cock hit the back of her throat with every downward thrust, which was a great feeling.

After a few minutes of fucking her while standing alongside the bed, Robby suggested it was my turn to squeeze my dick into that pussy. We helped flip her over -- her equilibrium was compromised somewhat by the blindfold -- and I entered her from behind, doggie-style. It had been a couple of months since I'd had sex, so this was a welcome opportunity and I made the most of it, thrusting enthusiastically as Jamie reached down with her right hand and rubbed it briskly across her clit. Meanwhile, Robby had opened up the small bottle of Astroglide he'd brought with him and suggested we DP the girl. She was definitely on board with that idea, so we maneuvered ourselves into position with me on my back and her on top, facing me. She reached down and re-inserted my cock into her pussy and leaned forward so I could suck on her tantalizingly erect nipples. I moved my legs together and Jamie did the same with hers, which allowed Robby to climb aboard and straddle the two of us. He squirted some lube onto his index finger and worked it into Jamie's rear hole, removed it quickly, and leaned forward while pressing his cock's head against her anus. She balanced on one hand above me while reaching back with her other hand and pulling her butt cheek aside to provide him greater access. A deep grunt from her, plus added pressure on my dick inside her pussy, told me he was in her ass. I lay still with my hands on Jamie's hips while Robby did all the work. He pounded her ass with enthusiasm and some deep penetration while she ground my pussy against my lower body. I saw Jamie's chest flushing red and moved my hands from her hips to her tits, tugging insistently on her nipples to match the rhythm the two of them were playing out above me. After a couple of minutes, Jamie let out a big groan and announced she was cumming.

By this point Robby was starting to run out of gas, so he pulled out of her ass and stepped across the hall into the bathroom so he could find a towel for wiping off his dick. Jamie rolled off me and onto her back, but she was clearly far from done. Neither was I -- so I climbed off at the foot of the bed and pulled Jamie toward the edge, pushed her legs up into the air and told her to hold them there (which she did by looping her arms around the backs of her knees), and then I sank my cock into her ass. It was the first time I'd done anal in probably 20 years, and it felt terrific. I was soon pounding her with balls-deep thrusts, and she let go of one leg so she could reach down and mash her fingers against her clit in a rapid-fire manner. Meanwhile, Robby crouched next to her face and stuck his newly cleaned-off dick into her mouth. She sucked him enthusiastically while I fucked her ass; then her butt muscles clenched and she was suddenly in the midst of her second orgasm.

Once it passed I withdrew, especially since my legs were shaky from all the thrusting that I was hardly used to anymore. Robby decided he wanted some more of Jamie's asshole, so we switched positions and he stood at the foot of the bed with his dick inserted all the way into her poop-chute. After about eight or ten thrusts he announced he was ready to cum, so he pulled out and shot a nice thick glob of white goo all over her pussy lips, with some coming to rest on her shorts. I was positioned behind her, with her head cradled in my lap, so I reached down and used two of my fingers to scoop up some of Robby's ejaculate. Then I popped my fingers into Jamie's mouth and she sucked them dry.

By now it was time for Robby to split, but I wasn't quite ready to call it quits and Jamie agreed to let me take her home. As Robby dug around on the floor for his discarded clothes and started to put them on, I finally pulled off Jamie's blindfold -- it was simply too much in the way after all this time -- and convinced her to get on top of me, 69-style. Robby said a quick goodbye, to which Jamie was only able to reply with a muffled grunt, since at that moment she had my entire cock in her mouth. I licked her pussy, sucked on her clit and slipped a finger into her ass, hoping to induce a third orgasm, but she came off my cock long enough to explain we'd made her pretty sore down there, so instead I pulled my face and hands away from her crotch and simply let her do her work. About three minutes into this latest activity I said, "OK, finish me off." Jamie took that as a cue to get me to cum, so she wrapped her hand around the base of my cock, sucked harder on the head, and shortly thereafter I was pumping my jizz down her throat.

She wanted to smoke a cigarette (Marlboro!), so she slipped on her black lace top and I led her toward the deck that's just outside our back door. She also wanted something alcoholic to drink, so I unscrewed the top off a tiny bottle of Barefoot Moscato and poured it into a juice glass. Classy presentation, eh? By now it was nearly 2:30, so rather than begin another fuck session -- we were both pretty sore at this point -- I suggested I drive her home. We got dressed and hit the road. On the way there, we enjoyed an interesting conversation about local politics, the police -- she was on probation for her 2nd DUI, thus a suspended drivers' license and the inability to drive -- and other non-sexual elements. As she exited my car she stuck her head back inside and gave me a warm kiss on the lips. "Tell Robby I'll be in touch again soon, OK? And next time, a couple additional guys would be all right." She'd obviously enjoyed herself!

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This past Friday night, with my wife back East visiting relatives, I invited over a new friend for a sleepover. We'd met three months ago on a local dating site and had fucked before -- always at her place -- with two four-hour sessions to our credit. She's exactly half my age (35 to 70) and a bit on the chubby side, but her height (5-11) helps make up for the 160-plus pounds she carries, and twice-a-week Pilates keeps her firm. She's a natural blonde with 36D breasts, plus nipples that always seem to be fully erect.

I picked her up at her townhouse, and we headed to a Middle Eastern restaurant on my side of town for dinner. As usual, our conversation was a mixture of contemporary thought (she's an attorney; I'm a tech writer), politics (we're both quite liberal), and sexual teasing. With our meal completed, we hopped back into my car for the 10-minute drive back to my condo. Since the building only has a single elevator and everyone there knows me (I'm on the HOA board), I was relieved that we didn't see a single resident as we traveled between the underground garage and my front door.

I took a quick shower while she made herself comfortable in my bedroom. Knowing her proclivity for squirting, I'd taken the time earlier that day to strip my bed down to its fitted sheet, under which I'd laid several bath towels. It proved to be a worthwhile exercise in caution.

As I emerged from the bathroom wearing a pair of red silk boxers, I saw her playing with my cat while she had on only a bra and panties. "Orange isn't exactly your color," I said half-playfully. "Well, you'll just have to take them off, then," was her reply. Since I'm only an inch taller than her, kissing is a very delightful and simple process, and we lip-locked probably a hundred times over the ensuing 14-plus hours. She beat me to the punch and unhooked her bra, to which I voiced a mild objection. "I'm very mechanically minded," I said. "Besides, I was unhooking bras long before you were born." She laughed and shrugged her shoulders, which caused her bra to fall to the floor. "Oops," she squealed." "I guess you'll have to pick that up, Mister Mechanically Minded."

We made out for a bit while standing up, her tugging on my erect, silk-covered cock, while I cupped her breasts and sucked insistently on each of her nipples. She reached down to rearrange her panties and let me know they were of the crotchless variety. I soon ran my fingers up and down her rapidly moistening slit before tugging them off entirely. She climbed onto the bed, and I kicked off my shorts before joining her. Hands went immediately to each partner's genitals, and we French-kissed furiously while tugging and stroking.

After a few minutes of that, I flipped her onto her back. She knew what was next and opened her legs invitingly. I dove down between her pale, creamy thighs and began to slurp long, extended licks from the base of her pussy to her little pearl-sized clit. "I brought my trimmer, if that's too hairy for you," she offered. Her pubic area boasted a neat triangle of dark-blonde stubble, but it was hardly bush-like. "Hey," I countered. "I grew up in the '60s, when no one ever heard of a shaved crotch." Then I really went to work on her.

I've been fortunate to have had sex with a few multi-orgasmic women in my time, but she is clearly the queen of that realm. In our previous two encounters, I'm guessing she came dozens of times in a four-hour span. It's hard to keep track, though, because she crests from one peak to another in such a seamless way that's it's closer to one giant, rolling orgasm. I alternated between one finger inside and thrusting, two fingers inside and mashing up against her g-spot, and three fingers inside and twisting. As for attending to her clit, I alternately flicked it with my tongue, sucked it hard between my lips, nibbled on it gently with my teeth, brushed it back and forth with the fingers of my other hand, and pressed it hard against her pubic bone with my thumb.

After a good 20-30 minutes of pussy attention -- and a request by her for me to take a break -- I rolled onto my back and she proceeded to give me a very thorough blow job. I'm not terribly large (5.75 inches long and circumcised), so it's not difficult for her to take me entirely into her mouth. She calls that her "disappearing dick trick," and she accompanies the oral action with some digital ball-sack manipulation. Then she decided it was time to fuck, so she climbed on top of me and rode me to three pussy-grinding orgasms. Given my lack of length, her enthusiastic back-and-forth rocking caused me to fall out a couple of times. I was about to apologize (for the second time) about being a bit short when she railed against that.

"Don't you dare say 'sorry' again," she said. "You're nice and thick, and I don't know a single woman who would prefer a long skinny dick to a wide one like yours that fills her up." Secretly I doubted her statement, but I was enjoying the situation way too much to object. After her third orgasm, and sensing I wasn't quite ready to come, she climbed off and went down on my cock again, expressing her love for tasting her pussy juice on my dick. After a bit of that, I tugged on her hair and she slid up the bed so we could lie side by side. She used her left hand to firmly stroke my erection while I reached down with my left hand and played with her clit.

One of the things we enjoy during our sessions is telling each other naughty stories about previous encounters with others. Her initial "bedtime story" that night involved relating a visit she'd made to a friend of hers who was in Dallas on business. She flew down there at his invitation for a one-nighter, but realized upon showing up at his hotel that she'd forgotten to bring any condoms. [I've been vasectomized, and we're both very careful to "play safe" with others -- not that I've had any action other than with her for quite a while -- so she and I bareback it with each other, but she employs condoms with all other partners.] It was a Sunday night, and the local CVS had closed early due to a worker shortage. "So, we stuck to oral for a while," she related to me. "And then he fucked my ass, which seemed like the best option at the time." It was that last bit that put me over the top, and cum shot out of my dick and cascaded down across her hand like a lava flow. She was quite fastidious in cleaning it up with her tongue, sucking on her fingers in dramatic fashion as the final drops disappeared into her beautiful mouth.

I wasn't anywhere near finished with her, however, and she spent the next half hour or so submitting to my various efforts. It usually takes her a while to work her way up to a squirting orgasm, but I was determined to bring her to that level before we called it a night. As it turned out, it only took about three minutes of highly focused finger-fucking for her to spurt forth, and she managed two additional squirts over the ensuing 10 minutes, the last of which she induced herself with two of her fingers pile-driving into her pussy while I rubbed her clit with such speed that my hand was nearly a blur.

At that point we figured we'd reached a good stopping point. It was after 11 pm, and we were both fairly worn out. While she headed to the bathroom to brush her teeth and pee, I grabbed the rest of the bed covers (a top sheet plus a down comforter) and got the bed ready for the night. We both decided to sleep in the nude -- "In case one of us gets horny in the dark," she said with a wink -- and snuggled for a bit before rolling onto our respective sides in preparation for sleep. My bed is only a double, so it's pretty narrow for two people. We drifted off to sleep naked-butt-to-naked-butt.

For some reason, I woke up just before two a.m. While asleep we'd ended up facing each other, and as I awoke I decided to "test the waters" and see if she was game for a late-night fuck. As soon as I slid my hand between her tucked-together thighs, she leaned into me and said, "It's about time you woke up." "What do you mean?" I asked somewhat stupidly. "Well," she went on, "I've been playing with my clit for the past 10 minutes and waiting for you to notice that the mattress was rocking." I was hard almost instantly, which for a guy my age, is nothing short of miraculous. It only took me a moment, however, to seize the situation. In a flash (which, for a 70-year-old guy, is probably measurable in minutes), I threw off the covers and got on top of her. She pushed me away just long enough to draw her legs up toward her chest, and then she guided my cock into her pussy. It didn't take me long to pound away, although I was only able to keep up the thrusting for a couple of minutes before my arms got tired of holding the rest of my body up above hers. Sensing my dilemma, and clearly not willing to have me stop, she pulled me down so I was lying fully on top of her, and after another few minutes of enthusiastic fucking, I came hard inside her pussy.

At that point I was breathing pretty hard, but I had the presence of mind to roll off her (I weigh around 230 pounds) and catch my breath while lying on my own side of the bed. She reached up with one hand and pressed her fingertips against my neck, physically taking note of my pulse rate. "I guess you'll live through the night," she said in a humorous tone. "Besides, my CPR training has lapsed." "Ha-ha," was about all I could manage in reply.

We fell back asleep but woke up almost simultaneously around eight o'clock. A quick trip to the bathroom for each of us, and we were back at it. Our morning session only lasted about 90 minutes, but she got in a good dozen orgasms and I made sure she got a good taste of her cum-filled pussy as I dipped my fingers into her snatch and coated them with a mixture of our respective juices before shoving them into her mouth. After a short rest, we climbed into the shower together and did a pretty good job of cleaning each other off. She admitted to being a bit sore from all the attention her pussy had received, so I avoided doing anything sexual to her as the water cascaded down around us, but she gave me a very nice soap-covered hand job as a reward of sorts.

After getting dressed and making sure she'd packed up all her stuff, we went to a nearby deli for brunch, and then I dropped her off at home. I'm not sure when we'll meet next -- we each have busy work schedules, and she has a couple of business trips set for the next month -- but I know the next time we're together it'll be more of the same. I'm already looking forward to it!

I Seriously have to laugh, women ladies females sluts, actually believe us guys when we say sorry for "ACCIDENTALLY" GOING UP YOUR ARSE "when YOU call out "WRONG HOLE, YOU ARE IN THE WRONG HOLE IT HURTS TAKE IT OUT",
Women Ladies Females & Sluts, come on really, us men don't actually accidentally go up your arse's by mistake, no no no we want to get up your arse, we secretly want to hurt you stretch you out, see that pained look on your face, it get us going give's an adrenaline rush nothing like that tight arse wrapped around our cocks, most guy's prefer the arse over pussy but a woman's arse.
And you Women Ladies Females & Sluts, tell us that nothing is going up there, its an exit only, ummmm really,
Explain if you don't want a big cock stretching your arsehole why do you not fight harder to stop us guy's, saying no do you really mean it ? the guy has to position his cock at that secret opening, he cant just go in, so you know what he want's what hole he is trying to go in, you can easily stop him, move your arse out the way cover the hole with your hand's etc. fight harder not just a no don't a few little wriggles of your body
and once the guy is up you, don't look at him with those tearful eyes and saying "PLEASE TAKE IT OUT YOU ARE HURTING ME " Us guy's know secretly you want it you love that pain and pleasure feeling, Yes it may hurt a lot at first really stretch split you in too, but after a short while the pleasure feeling kicks in.
I personally have fuck a few women's arse's in my time, all have said the combination of pure pain but unadulterated pleasure they love it, and being fuck Anally, has given them the most mind blowing orgasm's they have ever had, some told me they had multi orgasm's one or two squirted,
This is the true reason you Women Ladies Females & Sluts make me laugh.

I confess... my new girlfriend loves to suck cock. I was married 20 years to a bitch that reluctantly would suck 3 or 4 times a year, and never letting me cum in her mouth. In fact I only came from it once and came on her tits. Very unrewarding. Plus she had to be drunk so it was never good.

My new girlfriend loves my cock. LOVES it. I'm in awe at the cock worship I'm getting. I'm almost 8" and pretty thick, and a short guy so it looks even bigger :) She says my ex has no idea what she threw away lmao... but I've never been a "gym" guy so really never have got naked in front of other guys or compared my dick to anyone's so I'm taking her word.

When we were dating I told her that I was a virgin to cum in a girl's mouth. She told me later that when I told her that her panties instantly went wet. That night she leaned me back on the couch and started kissing me and undoing my pants. She took out my cock and looked up with a mischievous grin and went to town on my cock.

As she sucked it I leaned back and tried to relax but kinda tensed thinking I had to perform or something. She sensed my tension as my cock drooped a little from it's rock hardness previous. She looked up and told me to relax and looked into my eyes as she slowly and deliberately licked and sucked me back to full hardness. After about 20 minutes I finally felt the swell rising and tried to control it, but she must have sensed it and did some trick with her tongue and mouth to my head and pushed me over the edge. I unloaded into her mouth and she just kept at it, the most intense orgasm in memory just dragged on until I finally went limp. While I lay there recuperating, she went into the bathroom and brushed her teeth. I'm in love lol.

So now we have had about 4-5 sessions and each one I've gotten a little bolder in controlling her head and pushing my cock into her. She says she has no gag reflex. Really, I'm in love now :) The last time I was literally pushing my cock into her while I pushed her head at the same time. I can't descrie the feeling it gives me, both the added sensation of pressure and the domination factor of face-fucking her. There's a video (one of the most popular on ML) of the guy face-fucking that girl till she can't breathe. I think about it when she blows me now.

I'm going to try a little harder each time, and see where the threshold lies. I certainly don't want to ruin a good thing, but want to see how hard I can fuck her throat. Yesterday after blowing me, we had to get ready to go out and she complained that her panties were so wet she had to change before we left. The girl literally gets super horny while sucking me. She is also multi-orgasmic and can cum from me sucking her nipples.

I'm thinking marriage ;)

Best "climax" video - at least watch it from the half way point.
This girl is either a great actress or multi-orgasm proficient.

The climax is exactly where is should be too.

What's your favorite similar?

Had a heavy sleeper girlfriend a few years ago that I just started to really miss. Currently in a relationship now, but she's such a light sleeper. I can't watch porn all night and slip into bed, because even the creek of the mattress or the frigging mutt will wake her up. The ex? Bed was even noisier, and had a crappy Ikea frame that'd buckle with any weight on it... I am under 200, and she's an anorexic 110 soaking wet.

Anyhow, she'd usually sleep without underwear because of some tendency to cause yeast infections or something, and with ease, I could just pretend to roll her over from sleeping, whip out the cell phone, and boom, action shots. She was great and multi-orgasmic, just one after the other after the other, and her whole body would just convulse and clench me like some sort of venus fly trap. After the 10th or so in a row, she'd start to get tired (because we'd only fuck when she'd drink, you know, every night -- one of the reasons I left) and if I was a really lucky boy, she'd fall sound asleep. Shame on her. Petite body, me all lubed up on her overly flowing juices, and just an ass begging to be penetrated.

Oh, the memories. Always drinking so heavily, those blackouts came easier and easier, and you could say the most horrendous things beforehand, and no more than 10 minutes later, you take a shower, loudly either dildo or use the faucet to loudly masturbate, then come out, still soaking wet, and ready for another bunch of loud orgasms. To this day, I'm not sure why I didn't videotape it.

Nights like these, I kinda wish I did.

My g/f lives in a one bedroom condo she shares with her 24 yr old daughter. Most days on the way to work I would stop for coffe and a fuck. Daughter slept mostly on th pullout couch and would go use her moms bed when she got up cause the kitchen lights etc would wake her up. so mostly i would fuck my g/f on the pullout. we left the kitchen lights on so we could see but living room was dark i would usually eat her first as she was multi orgasmic and made fucking so much hotter. This went on for a few months my g/f was not quiet when she came or when i was in her so i was sure her dau must have heard us a few times. we would freeze evertime we heard the toilet flush knowing she was in the hall but she always went back to bed. One morming after we finished we hear moaning from the bedroom i tough her dau had her b/f over but it was her running a vibrator on herself, guess she heard us after all,
My G/f was still horned up so got her to open door enough we could watch in the dim light so erotic knowing we turned her on like that.
Wish I could say it led to a hot threesome but sadly no but we do leave a few more light son when we fuck now and have watched her dau masturbate many more times and yes by now she knows we watch, Did fuck my gf doggie style once when we were watching but i came in like 2 min, always hopeful for that 3some!

She just bent over and spread her nigger legs for the White man, offering him her awaiting wet nigger cunt. She needed to be White-bred. It's what her nigger body had always told her but she had always been too afraid to venture out of her social bubble and face the scrutiny of being labeled yet another White man's whore. Fortunately, she knew just who she could go to who was already thoroughly experienced in the interracial interactions with White cock and could arrange for her first encounter with a White man. She knew that when she would meet the White man, to him, she would be nothing more than just another nigger girl to be bred. She didn't care. In fact, it was exactly how she had wanted it. She was a nigger-bitch in heat. She didn't want to be loved; she wanted to be FUCKED! She had wanted to have the full experience of being fucked by a White man which meant that she had wanted to submit to his power for being bred; and bred she certainly was. Getting on her knees and elbows while raising her ass and spreading her nigger legs to expose her awaiting cunt, she felt his big White hands upon her round nigger ass and the entry of his stiff White cock deep into her contracting nigger cunt. Just the thought of this moment had made her orgasm in the past. Now, that it was actually happening, she couldn't help but to orgasm instantly. Yet, that was only the beginning. Slowly, he began the rhythm of life, repeatedly thrusting his stiff White cock deeply into her wet nigger cunt. Her panting grew as his pace increased and she soon discovered that she was multi-orgasmic. This was the White man fucking her, the White man BREEDING HER! She was now lost in an orgasmic sea of bliss. White Power was pumping in her and White Power would be what she would ever submit to from now on. She was just another nigger girl to him but to her, it was a life defining experience. From this moment on, she knew that the White man was exactly right where he was meant to be. Breeding nigger women had been a responsibility of the White man since before the founding of the country and now she knew that being bred by the White man has been the nigger woman's responsibility as well. The times have changed but the social responsibility has always remained the same. Nigger-breeding can never be socialized or legislated away. Nigger-breeding is a biological imperative, a law of nature that can never be ignored.
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